Nobody Can Crack This Number Puzzle...?!

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10.12.07, 14:22:25

wustvn

geändert von: wustvn - 28.05.09, 14:24:10

Hi to all of you guys...
10.12.07, 18:38:22

Marco

Hi wustvn

sorry, but i dont understand the problem. Please explain it more clear.

I have look in the xls-file on sheet #2

i have only to do the numbers 1 to 40 set in one table. But why i cant do:
1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10
11,12, ....
what do you mean with:
Zitat:
Each table contains of numbers, which here I give an example 1 to 40, that should be found its patterns, so all of the numbers have to be fit in a certain rows in all of the tables.


I like some puzzles, but i dont know the rules from this one :(. For example: on SUDOKU i know, what is allow and what not. On this puzzle i dont know this things.

Best regards


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Now some in german:

Kann mir einer den ersten Post ins Deutsche übersetzen? Mit Babelfish versteh ich auch nicht mehr. Ein paar Dinge konnte ich schon herauslesen, aber leider nicht die Regeln. Bei Sudoku zum Beispiel ist es klar gegeben, was man machen darf und was nicht... hier leider nicht so der Fall :(

Danke schonmal :)
10.12.07, 19:30:48

b.weird

Zitat von wustvn:

There are tables contain of 10 rows (1,2,3,...,10) each.
Each table contains of numbers, which here I give an example 1 to 40, that should be found its patterns, so all of the numbers have to be fit in a certain rows in all of the tables.
Tables 1-20 in sheet #2, Tables 21-32 in sheet #3, Tables 33-44 in sheet #4,..., Tables 273-284 in sheet #24.
I name and arrange the tables just like that, though you can do else.
In sheet #1 you can see Tables 1-20 have filled with numbers 1 to 350.
In sheet #25 you can see that total amount of the numbers in each rows are almost its average, so this isn't random and it should have a solution, shouldn't it?
(I hope this can explain the problems clearly).
Thank you to those who want to pay attentions and interested in this puzzle.

P.S:
1. Please reply this, if you need to, in English.
2. Because of their similar shapes, in sheet #26 & #27 I rearranged the tables that I think could be the "keys" of this puzzle, and I put the file (name: #26.xls) in my latest post there.
3. This "big sizes" puzzle is really tough, perhaps geniuses can only crack it...??!!


Diese gebrochene Englisch heißt:

Es gibt Tische/Bretter mit je 10 Reihen (1-10.
Jedes Brett besteht aus Nummer, für die ich hier als ein Beispiel 1-40 gebe und jede Nummer soll in eine bestimmte Reihe passen.
Brett 1-20 in Blatt/Seite Nr. 2, Brett 21-32 in Blatt Nr. 3, Brett 33-44 in Blatt 4, ..., Brett 273-284 in Blatt Nr. 24.
Ich benenne und ordne die Bretter und Blätter so, aber das könnt Ihr auch anders machen.
Auf dem Blatt Nr. 1 kann man sehen, dass die Bretter 1-20 mit Zahlen von 1-350 gefüllt wurden.
Auf Blatt Nr. 25 kann man sehen, dass die Gesamtzahl der Zahlen in jede Reihe ungefähr ihr Durchschnitt ist [was auch immer damit gemeint ist, Anm. d. verwirrten Übers.] , es ist also kein Zufall und es sollte eine Lösung geben, oder?

Im P.S. steht noch unter 2):
Wegen der ähnlichen Formen/Umrisse in Blatt Nr. 26 & 27 habe ich die Bretter umsortiert. Dies könnte meiner Meinung nach der Schlüssel zu dem Puzzle sein. Ich habe die Datei (Name) in meinem letzten Posting hier.

Ich weiss nicht, ob Dir das weiterhilft oder es einfach nur verwirrt und in der Zeit irgendwas Fremdes Deine Festplatte scannt...:confused:
10.12.07, 19:32:20

b.weird

Habe gerade gesehen, dass mein Deutsch in der obigen Antwort teilweise auch nicht viel besser ist. :rolleyes: Aber weil's so lustig ist und hier gut passt lasse ich's mal. :D
11.12.07, 13:33:15

wustvn

Just like HITORI, there will be no same numbers vertically, horizontally & diagonally. And finally there are no blank rows/columns like HITORI, each rows of each table will be full of numbers as shown in Table 1 to Table 20 in sheet #1.
Can this make it more clearly?
Thank's.
12.12.07, 21:02:10

Marco

Hi wustvn

Zitat von wustvn:
Just like HITORI, there will be no same numbers vertically, horizontally & diagonally. And finally there are no blank rows/columns like HITORI, each rows of each table will be full of numbers as shown in Table 1 to Table 20 in sheet #1.
Can this make it more clearly?


Each table contained all numbers only once time. Normally never can in ONE table a number be double. If over ALL tables be no same numbers vertically, horizontally & diagonally, then i have the problem with the diagonally.

Is in the XLS-File one table filled right with numbers?

In Table 1 in sheet #1 there are blank cells behind column 46 and some numbers are grey. Must i filled the table with more numbers (higher than 350)? What about the grey cells?

In Table 3 and 4 on sheet #1 is the number 1 on the column 1 and row 6.

Best regards

Marco
13.12.07, 07:09:52

wustvn

geändert von: wustvn - 13.12.07, 07:29:25

Zitat von Marco:
Each table contained all numbers only once time. Normally never can in ONE table a number be double. If over ALL tables be no same numbers vertically, horizontally & diagonally, then i have the problem with the diagonally.

Is in the XLS-File one table filled right with numbers?

In Table 1 in sheet #1 there are blank cells behind column 46 and some numbers are grey. Must i filled the table with more numbers (higher than 350)? What about the grey cells?

In Table 3 and 4 on sheet #1 is the number 1 on the column 1 and row 6.

Dear Marco,
I meant in EACH TABLE there will be no same numbers vertically, horizontally & diagonally. I think the numbers are not significant diagonally.
It's true that each table contained all numbers only once time.
Yes, the XLS-File has filled with right numbers and had been checked several times.
In Table 1 in sheet #1 there are blank cells behind column 46 and some numbers are grey. Yes, you have to fill the table with more numbers (higher than 350).
The grey cells are my approaching methods. I had explain this at:
http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~wwu/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=riddles_hard;action=display;num=1192863624
But this still needs more explanations.
Yes, It's true that in Table 3 and 4 on sheet #1 the number 1 on the column 1 and row 6.
Thank's for your attentions.
16.04.09, 08:52:14

micha

Viel Erfolg!

Muss mal etwas ausprobieren...

Micha
16.04.09, 17:48:34

wustvn

geändert von: wustvn - 06.05.09, 16:24:55

Hi micha,
Someone has made the source code like this:
Code:
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import java.util.*;
public class Table {
static Scanner console = new Scanner(System.in);
    public static void main (String[] args) 
    {
     
       String list = "010509131741454953572125293337616569737702030406070810111214" +
                     "151618192022232426272830313234353638394042434446474850515254" +
                     "5556585960626364666768707172747576787980818283848586878889909192";
       String number;
       int counter = 0;
       int randomNumber = 0;
       int rowPlacement = 0;
  
       
       Vector row_0 = new Vector();
       Vector row_1 = new Vector();
       Vector row_2 = new Vector();
       Vector row_3 = new Vector();
       Vector row_4 = new Vector();
       Vector row_5 = new Vector();
       Vector row_6 = new Vector();
       Vector row_7 = new Vector();
       Vector row_8 = new Vector();
       Vector row_9 = new Vector(); 
           
       for (counter=0; counter<184; counter = counter + 2)
       {
           number = list.substring(counter, counter + 2);
           
           //-------------------------------------------------------------------          
           if (counter == 10 || counter == 20 || counter == 30 || counter >= 40)
           {
               rowPlacement = 0;
           }
           //-------------------------------------------------------------------
           do
           {
                randomNumber = (int) ( 10 * Math.random() );   
           }
           while (rowPlacement > randomNumber);
           //-------------------------------------------------------------------
           
           if (randomNumber == 0)
           {
                row_0.addElement(number);
                rowPlacement = 0;
           }
       
           else if (randomNumber == 1)
           {
                row_1.addElement(number);
                rowPlacement = 1;
           }
       
           else if (randomNumber == 2)
           {
                row_2.addElement(number);
                rowPlacement = 2;
           }    
       
           else if (randomNumber == 3)
           {
                row_3.addElement(number);
                rowPlacement = 3;
           }
       
           else if (randomNumber == 4)
           {
                row_4.addElement(number);
                rowPlacement = 4;
           }
       
           else if (randomNumber == 5)
           {
                row_5.addElement(number);
                rowPlacement = 5;
           }
       
           else if (randomNumber == 6)
           {
                row_6.addElement(number);
                rowPlacement = 6;
           }
       
           else if (randomNumber == 7)
           {
                row_7.addElement(number);
                rowPlacement = 7;
           }
       
           else if (randomNumber == 8)
           {
                row_8.addElement(number);
                rowPlacement = 8;
           }
       
           else if (randomNumber == 9)
           {
                row_9.addElement(number);
                rowPlacement = 9;
           }
       
        }
        System.out.println(row_0);
        System.out.println(row_1);
        System.out.println(row_2);
        System.out.println(row_3);
        System.out.println(row_4);
        System.out.println(row_5);
        System.out.println(row_6);
        System.out.println(row_7);
        System.out.println(row_8);
        System.out.println(row_9);
     }
  }

But it didn't work yet to result tables like I put at Mediafire.com (a file hosting service) name Enigma.xls:
http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=12a93ace84ea3ab56b21be4093fab7ace04e75f6e8ebb871
Thx.
 
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